The 3-way of Economic Nightmares.
I recently had a discussion on X, with regard to the Forecasting ability of High Yield Spreads. I was making the claim they do possess Leading Indicator qualities, while a gentleman took the other side of this debate.
To illustrate my views, I've put together a chart of FedFunds Rate, Unemployment Rate, and said High Yield Spreads.
This chart shows the last ~28yr of the above mentioned series, and how they "play" with one another.
A) Shows the period leading into the "DotCom" Bubble. We see High Yield Spreads rise first - Leading the other two data series. In a Coincident fashion, FedFunds then rolls over, while Unemployment shoots higher. A successful "Forecast" by High Yield Spreads of the impending Downturn/Recession. A successful Leading Indicator.
B) Shows the period leading into the "GFC". We once again see High Yield Spreads rise, this time SHARPLY, albeit with much less "lead time" than the previous example. As with example A), FedFunds and Unemployment then begin their inverse (to each other) dance. Once again showing High Yields Spread giving us that Advanced/Leading warning that things were getting fragile in the economy. A successful Leading Indicator - with admittedly less warning time.
C) Shows us an outlier in this analysis, and for good reason. We see our 'significant' rise in High Yield Spreads, but what we do NOT see, is FedFunds and Unemployment doing their typical dance. Unemployment continues to head lower, while FedFunds begin to rise - the OPPOSITE of what they did in the prior 2 examples.
D) Shows the period surrounding Covid. Once again High Yield Spreads shoot up in a dramatic fashion, warning bells should be going off in markets. Much like 2 of the previous 3 examples, FedFunds had also been in a "hiking" cycle. And right on cue, Unemployment skyrockets; completing our 3-way from Hell.
We now find ourself in E). In the Oval we see our significant rise in High Yield Spreads, but this is accompanied by rising FedFunds, so we do not have our "danger" signal. Unemployment also remains low. We now however see High Yield Spreads beginning to turn up, with talks of Rate Cuts to FedFunds, as well as Unemployment rising.
History may not repeat, but it does often rhyme. Are we starting to see warning signs flashing? Only time will tell, but as stated in previous posts... It's definitely not a time to be leveraged, or riding on large gains you haven't secured.
TLDR; High Yield Spreads followed by Fallings FedFunds and Rising Unemployment = Market/Economic Stroke.
As always, good luck, have fun, practice solid risk management. And thank you for your time.
To illustrate my views, I've put together a chart of FedFunds Rate, Unemployment Rate, and said High Yield Spreads.
This chart shows the last ~28yr of the above mentioned series, and how they "play" with one another.
A) Shows the period leading into the "DotCom" Bubble. We see High Yield Spreads rise first - Leading the other two data series. In a Coincident fashion, FedFunds then rolls over, while Unemployment shoots higher. A successful "Forecast" by High Yield Spreads of the impending Downturn/Recession. A successful Leading Indicator.
B) Shows the period leading into the "GFC". We once again see High Yield Spreads rise, this time SHARPLY, albeit with much less "lead time" than the previous example. As with example A), FedFunds and Unemployment then begin their inverse (to each other) dance. Once again showing High Yields Spread giving us that Advanced/Leading warning that things were getting fragile in the economy. A successful Leading Indicator - with admittedly less warning time.
C) Shows us an outlier in this analysis, and for good reason. We see our 'significant' rise in High Yield Spreads, but what we do NOT see, is FedFunds and Unemployment doing their typical dance. Unemployment continues to head lower, while FedFunds begin to rise - the OPPOSITE of what they did in the prior 2 examples.
D) Shows the period surrounding Covid. Once again High Yield Spreads shoot up in a dramatic fashion, warning bells should be going off in markets. Much like 2 of the previous 3 examples, FedFunds had also been in a "hiking" cycle. And right on cue, Unemployment skyrockets; completing our 3-way from Hell.
We now find ourself in E). In the Oval we see our significant rise in High Yield Spreads, but this is accompanied by rising FedFunds, so we do not have our "danger" signal. Unemployment also remains low. We now however see High Yield Spreads beginning to turn up, with talks of Rate Cuts to FedFunds, as well as Unemployment rising.
History may not repeat, but it does often rhyme. Are we starting to see warning signs flashing? Only time will tell, but as stated in previous posts... It's definitely not a time to be leveraged, or riding on large gains you haven't secured.
TLDR; High Yield Spreads followed by Fallings FedFunds and Rising Unemployment = Market/Economic Stroke.
As always, good luck, have fun, practice solid risk management. And thank you for your time.
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